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Has anyone else noticed growl being less effective against outland mobs?
It seems to be resisted but a good number of mobs whom also seem to be able to parry disengage.
Naturally I’ve noticed this three fold in instances when I attempt my old manual cast growl for cloth protection (healer gets aggro, wing clip, sick pet on mob, hit growl hot key etc) it just gets no respect.

I can make up for it a bit with intimidation but that has limited use and utility.

To clarify I am not speaking of tanking instance bosses or anything immune to taunt. Just because I’m a beastmaster doesn’t mean I’m stupid.-David A. Smith
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“I’m leveling Beast Master and I’m never going to Valkrum again!” – Famous Last wordsI totally agree with azuarc on this. We actually reply to each others posts wheras most other people on the site do not. Hunters have a lot of noobs. But out of the woodwork come skilled hunters like me iponema and all of our good buddies -.o-Funniest movie ever!
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It’s because we actually answer each other.
Oh yeah, it’s also because of the killer FAQ I wrote that keeps people from creating pointless thread. Yup. That’s totally it.
Edited, Apr 9th 2007 1:23am by Azuarc-Arcazua, 70 hunter of Dark Legacy, Lightbringer
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Can anyone calculate if Rapid fire does more dmg then a shootingcycle?

Skip volley. The only thing it gains aggro on, is the mobs that anyone else only have token threat on. Distracting, Arcane, and if there aren’t any other mobs nearby (CC and so on) multishot. You shouldn’t need a macro for that. Just cast them in whatever order you feel like. -Friar Bijou wrote:ITT: NorthAI is a L?rd Kaolian wrote:We get some batsht insane people here on occasion.I’m trying to create a macro or secquence of shots that will pull aggro off a healer onto me (in the case of a failed freeze trap, for example). I know the distracting shot is the bread and butter here, but what are some of the other shots that you’d recommend? I think it would need to an instant shot because you probably don’t have 1.5 seconds for SS or WS to wind up (and you sure don’t have 3 seconds for aimed!) I’m also not too concerned about cooldowns since I’ll probably only be able to go through the sequence once before I either a) have aggro, or b) it’s too late to pull aggro
The macro I have worked out so far is
/castsequence distracting shot, concussive shot, arcane shot, volley
I put volley last because it takes some time to set up. I do find it to be an effective aggro puller, though (usually at all the wrong times).
I also didn’t add a pet attack because my pet may already be engaged with a mob and may have aggro of his own. Sending him in here may very well pull his mob with him. Also, unless he’s got dash and it’s not on cooldown, I’m not sure if he’d get there in time to help anyway.
Any are welcome.
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As survival I solo with bite, gore, and growl… And my pet will hold aggro event though I crit alot.-Darigraz – Hunter
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in 9 of the 10 houses live your friends, the 10th house belongs to your family… you spend your time in the pub, so what’s left to be burned?as BM, I can usually keep both on and still have enough focus for Growl.-Ayrianna 80 Nightelf Hunter – Queen of Typos
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levaks wrote:And you Ayrianna you are the tupical noob hunter that everyone hates in BGs..the hunter that do arena just to get the axe..
I’m sorry. But Petopi-what?You always want a focus dump and bite. Bite has higher and the focus dump allows you to deal damage within that period of time. With GFtT you will still benefit from having a focus dump, especially if it’s just auto-attack besides. So I’d get both either way.
Dilbrt, do you like the left trees for some reason?-comma long-slash comma comma asterick underscore asterick comma comma long-slash commaGet bite-you’ll always be stupid, you’ll just be stupid with more information in your brain.
01001001 00100000 01101100 01101001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01100011 01100001 01101011 01100101Ok back when my hunter used to be my main the general consensus was that if you weren’t BM you got bite (had a cat back then, but nearly the same pet) and if you were BM you got a focus dump like claw/gore. You never had both. Is this still the case, or should I go give my ravager (I’m BM) bite in addition to my Death Knight of Frostmane
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I got messaged last night by a 55 hunter asking to invite him to Scholo while my wife and I were getting her Pali mount quest done. (fighting that boss at that time)
I told him we were leaving and that he should just quest in a few zones to level up and get some money.
He told me that his pet sucked as it never held aggro. With this I asked him what pet was he using.
He told me he was using a bird. So I asked him the first thing I could think of. Was his Growl and Screech up to date
He asked what screech was and said it was a bird it can’t growl… OH NOES!
I /facepalm and went into explaining this to him the functionality of growl and that any pet can learn it. He was like, my pet doesn’t have either of them.
I told him to train these to his bird and start doing quests in the crator, eastern plaguelands, or Wintersprings. he told me he did all those quests already and he was still 55. I told him go check again. which apon complaints about his pet not holding aggro on mobs in Hellfire I reminded him of the level difference and also told him not to unload all his abilities on the mob.
He started complaining so I told him I was getting off and logged out.
Sorry about the long story but…
Is it really possible for someone to continue trying to levelall the way to 55 without growl on a pet? To me that just seems rediculous.
Meh… just a story I thought I would share… -Alliance
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Blood: Because of the many attacks that heal for a percentage of the dmg you cause the best weapons for any Blood specced DK should be obvious…HIGH Top End Dmg higher crits mean more health to ya letting you have a better Survivability and saving the healers mana in instances since they have one less person to heal…

Frost: high STR and stamina are DEFINATELY good to have for any tank however a DK can benefit the most because they convert STR into parry rating… The way i see it if you have 2 1h weapons that you are tanking with it might be ok to have a moderate speed weapon for your mainhand because of instant attacks…however for your off hand since other than stats and that extra rune OH is next to useless a fast OH could be handy for extra dmg and if you aren’t useing swordbreaking it may help whatever is on that weapon proc a bit more…of course most tanking weapons are pretty fast anyways so if you come across a faster weapon for your main hand go ahead and take it more swings more dmg more threat. And yes if the weapon has the right stats you can tank some instances with a two hander but 1 handers that give def rating armor resilience dodge or anything like that are usually preferred but if you are capped in each department without the weapon a two hander could be good to throw in extra dmg.

Unholy: Unfortunately i have yet to do anything deep in unholy before i respecced to frost since most of your dmg can come from your ghoul gargoyle and diseases a 2h or DW build can be equally effective…many people prefer to DW for unholy however and although i am not sure it seems to increase DPS a fair bit for them…dont quote me on this

If anyone has any corrections or additions post them and share your thoughts….be nice(ish)!ok being nice.
most of what you say isnt correct.  dw has some specific builds in which it works, but only as dps.  if you or any other dk is tanking with dw they/you are wrong.  the reasons being a) your rune strike hits for less with a 1h wep and it is most of your threat.
b)you need much more hit rating in order to not miss which is huge for a tank
c) fast weps = more swings = more boss parries = parryjibbed.  not all bosses parryjib though but when it happens its a problem.

does not matter what tree you spec, dps will always benefit from blood pressence (although some dw specs use unholy pressence), but it isnt enough to not need healing.  atm unholy and frost specs can both be very effective tanks, blood is a little behind and unholy, blood, and dw specs do the best dps.I’ve played Unholy all the yway to lvl 68 (currently) and I would say that a slow 2H is best since your damage comes from instant strikes and Rune Strike. when watching my DPS meter my auto attacks stand for 13%% of my damage, my Rune strikes is 20%%, My diseases is about 40%% and the direct damage of instant strikes (Plague Strike, Blood Strike, etc) is 27%%.

Now the reason for my Disease damage is because I normaly pull 3 mobs at once and AOE them down.

i have a blood spec (52 pts in blood) lv 77 that usually finishes #1 in dps #2 in damage taken and #3 in healing (get that) in all the instances i do. but like most of us, i am always looking for a little more, for improvement. i tend to only use armor that gives strength, stamina and critical strike bonuses. my neck, rings and trinkets all give critical strike bonus and have additional bonuses that stack… alright i am running on and not getting to my question. which do you prefer agility bonus or going directy critical strike bonus?and why do you prefer them…thanks

For a DPS only improvement my choices are:
1- get hit rating capped;
2- STR (or 2x AP) > CRIT > EXP > AGI > STAM

Therefore, i only get AGI (gems or enchants with it) after get EXP (expertise) capped. That is I won’t!

Considering that i’m rit rating capped I ll always pick up STR gems in red sockets. All the places that accept AGI enchants also accept STR or 2x Attack Power.

I like gems with STR + Crit in yellow sockets, and STR + STAM to the blue ones.

The crit improvement from AGI is far inferior then Critical rating itself. AGI gives more armor (useless for a DPS) and a irrelevant AP when compared to other options of 2 collors gems.

It’s nice to hear that you are a good DPS. A good DPS performance rely on (imo):
1- focus and attention;
2- player skills;
3- nice weapon;
4- gear.For Gems

Red – Bold Scarlet Ruby = +16 Strength

Yellow – Pristine Monarch Topaz(orange) = +16 AP and +8 Hit Rating (if not capped), or Inscribed Monarch Topaz(orange) = +8 Str and +8 Crit Rating (if capped on hit)

Blue – Vivid Forest Emerald(green) = +8 Hit and +12 Stam (if not capped), or Sovereign Twlight Opal(purple) = +8 Str and +12 Stam (if capped on Hit)

Ian not seem to figure out what I am doing wrong. I am a lvl 21 blood elf lk. At level 21 I went to the undeity, whh I hear was a little late in the game, but I am kind of a noob so i guess I leveled slowly. Anyway, when I got to the undeity, i saw something about a quest to get my scubus, but then solved the quests and dont have further info on the scubus. Additionally, I seem to be in a world now where there aren’t too many quests and all the beasts are under my level or over. Perhaps this normal, but in the Ghostlands and previous, the lands were explored as the skills and levels developed. Now I am being sent all over the ple, and having a hard time getting thru some of the lands when lvl 30 beasts attk! Did I somehow end up in the wrong ple? Any help would be mh appriated. Link to this 2 replies Aug 20th 2008 3:23pm : Logged Reply to this folsomdogholar43 Dent
At your level I would just head over to Hillsbrad Foothills. It’s a little run from the Undeity but you should have a buh of quests to do there. Hope that helps. folsomdog
Level 21 and you have been doing Ghostlands. Now youan go to The Barrens, do a few quests, most will be a little low but will give some experiee and youan prtise different spells, learn to use your scy. Also while in The Barrens head toamp T and do quests from there the hunting quests you are at the right level for. T for The Barrens, turn off generalhat or learn to live with immaturity there. You should be able to get to level 23-24 there, also a few quests in Stonetalon Mountains whh is next to Barrens and also youan go to Ashenvale and do a few quests. At about 24 as Folsomdog said youan do the quests around Hillsbrad, youould start lower but most mobs are 24-26. Going to Undeity at 21 isn’t really to late, thing to remember that outside Undeity is the Undead starting area and the next zone there is Stillpine whh is Undead 12-20 area, you have done the equivalant Bloodelf areas, Eversong and Ghostlands. I think you get the same amount of experiee if the quests are green, orange or red, only get less experiee if quests are gray, so don’t feel that you are to high for an area, if mobs are 5 levels or less lower then you, you still get experiee and it helps to learn the game quker if you aren’t fighting mobs that are to tough for you, it may seem to take longer, but I enjoy killing mobs more thenonstantly running bk to myorpse. Link to this 0 Messages skped by filter settings, 3 displayed.Thread Index New Subjt Reply to this 2 Replies (Seah Forums) Forum by ZAM Network   v2.7 Allakhazam’s Forums >World of Waraftlass Diussions >Warlk >Help a lvl21 lk opy; • ZAM Store • About ZAM • Site FAQ • Premium • Advertise Someontent is lensed under the GNU Free Dumentation Lense • Privy Poly • Terms of Serve

Krago the Mighty wrote:Anyone telling me how to play myharteran kiss my ass, and I’ll tell them so should they try. I play for pure fun, and if amuses me, or fulfils a whim of mine, I’ll do it. I don’t need some well-meaning nerd getting their “Eel Spreadsheet of Death Knight Uberness” out and pointing out the error of my ways. I’ll use what sp I like, and I’ll dual-wield or use a 2-hander as I see fit. Thatomes ross as a lot more abrasive than I intend, but honestly, if I ever find I need adve on how to make myharter idental to everyone else’s in the game, that’s when I quit. That’s ne and all but really you’re looking at it wrong. The majority of players sk. Guess what happens when you sk too. That’s right you fall into the majority. Weome to the average. SPLOING! Link to this ing from the deep end of the pond. D 2nd 2008 7:41pm Edited: D 2nd 2008 7:42pm : Logged Reply to this Mozaredholar2325 Dent

Getting bk to the OP, there’s a none too fine line between handing out unsolited adve about shifting talent points around or regemming a pie of equment for min maxing, and pointing out that spellpower provides no benefit whatsoever to a DK. The latter is about on par with the TP hanging out. But hey, if even that is too mh information and some people would prefer walking around in gear whh isn’t merely suboptimal but tually literally worthless, that’s fine with me too. Next time I meet a Krago in a PUG, hean have the spell damage plate, I’ll keep the AP kit.

We are THE pvp healer of S5, well us and Di Priests. Sred shield is so dramatally OP for PvP it makes Resto Druids in S3 seem fair and balaed. For PvE, well if you are terrible and playing with a pre-3.0 mindset then you are trash and you shouldn’t fix alass purely to comodate for broken healers. Blessing of S 30% less damage for 12sonds on a tank during burst. Sred Shield in PvE is ne as well. Nearly endless mana, the ability to raid heal while doing primary healing with Beon on a tank. Holyshk hitting for 6-8krits and prcing instantast spells making for trulyluh heals. Former guild offer went off to join a top 50 US guild and we talk sometimes, he says paladinsan’t keep up on meters and that they only bring 1 holy pally per raid. 1 holy seems fine, however I am pushingoH priests and Resto Druids on heals but I have been doing that sie before Sunwell Plateau began the trivialization of pallies. Also been doing it after wink. The bas statement oe dropped by a wise wise Mod in Blue still stands, Lrn2play.
Do yourself a favor and don’tlk on any of the links that nikolasbker is spewing. Hopefully they’ll get nuked soon. Link to this ing from Pennsylvania1 Message skped by filter settings, 7 displayed.Thread Index New Subjt Reply to this 7 Replies (Seah Forums) Forum by ZAM Network   v2.7 Allakhazam’s Forums World of Waraftlass Diussions Paladin QQ on Holy Palas opy; • ZAM Store • About ZAM • Site FAQ • Press • Premium • Advertise Someontent is lensed under the GNU Free Dumentation Lense • Privy Poly • Terms of Serve